Raid10 will leave me with 4TB of usable storage, which is enough. I’m just glad I had external Space for backup of the NAS when a disc broke and I tried to rebuild, as one more disc failed. What do you think. Also an Akasa K25. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such … These cookies are necessary for the website to function and cannot be switched off in our systems. Of course, this depends on the needed output + subtitle, but definitely isn’t up for the job in most cases. (1) HP ProLiant MicroServer Gen8 w/ Xeon E3-1220L@ 2.3GHz 16GB RAM 4TB 4x 1TBHDD. It has a floppy 4pin connector as the power source of slim ODD drive which is somehow weird, why not slim-line sata? Hewlett Packard Enterprise ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus Xeon E-2224 16GB RAM 1TB HDD - P18584-421 HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 X3216, 8 GB-U, 4LFF, nicht Hot-Plug … One thing I’ve always wanted to do is team the gigabit NICs on my desktop and the server and see if I can get around 150MBps transfer rates between them. Your still welcome to mail me Frank, if needed. In my case, the integrated SATA controller has to be set to legacy or AHCI for the HDD to be detected and bootable (I am using a Adaptec 3405 for RAID 5 anyway :-) ). The question is what SSD/HDD do i must use? Also want to use this server to train my self in server management. I thought only the onboard B120i with suitable drivers let the system run at a normal fan cpu? About prices, you can get P410 with or without bbwc pretty cheap on ebay and such. Security and safety updates do not require an active warranty or services contract. I boot VMware off the USB, the SSD is VMware’s datastore where I have a ZFS server that uses two VMDKs on the SSD as the ZIL (ZFS intent log to cache random writes until they can be written to spindles) and L2ARC (Level 2 Adaptive Replacement Cache) which puts the most frequently accessed data onto the SSD. Shipped with USPS Priority Mail. But their fans are typically far more noisy than consumer heatsinks. I bought a ‘working’ 1230v2 on ebay, but can’t get it go on either of my Gen8 Microserver’s. I use it as my home network infrastructure via ESXi Server. I’ll update this blog once it arrives and I have tested it! It depends what you’re trying to do. 3. the Samsung 840PRO. Shipped from China, as it isn’t available in the US yet. I had a problem with the card not saving a new RAID config, but updating the LSI firmware solved that. Correct. Hi Richard, I’m selling the HP Microserver (with Xeon processor) on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271475895778&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123. Unsere Redaktion an Produkttestern verschiedene Produzenten verglichen und wir zeigen unseren Lesern hier unsere Ergebnisse des Vergleichs. I thought it wise to at least go into the BIOS and disable 3.7GHz Turbo, so the max we’ll hit is 3.3GHz. Thanks for all the postings in this thread and especially Ben for starting it. My biggest conecrn is still the amount of memory 16gb max due to the Udimm (unbuffered). I boot from the USB stick, and install ESXi to another USB stick. 1 x 120GB SSD Raid 1+0 or 10 is much more secure than raid 5. 4. Thank you Ben, this is detailed and very useful information on the MicroServer Gen8. – Virtual NAS They have different part numbers though: 587324-001 for capacitor, 462976-001 for battery pack. Is built-in HP Smart Array support ESXi that you installed on Microserver G8 ? Are the P422 and P420 combatible with the Gen8 microserver? IEC 60950-1, HP ProLiant MicroServer Gen8 w/ Xeon E3-1220L@ 2.3GHz 16GB RAM 4TB 4x 1TB HDD. I want to make one of the VM the gaming/multimedia VM. 290 € 14199 Wilmersdorf. Firts of all, many thanks for this great info resource you shared here, It helped a lot. running on the Microserver now that I don’t want to take offline to test it out. Guess I’ll simply have to put in a better quality fan. 2. Was looking at a Mac Mini due to its energy efficiency, but it’s limited in terms of HDD bays and I’d probably be running Windows Server instead anyway, so paying more for the “Apple tax” was kind of a turn off. Can see I didn’t wrote that. Of course I did this long before these mini servers came out. Hi, John. maybe next year =). You’re answer helped a lot in the decision! I honestly don’t like Raid5 anyway, and am using Raid10 myself. Sadly its not a server or enterprise board, and enterprise server arch is best for what I do. Standard 1155/1156 is 75mm between the holes in a square, if this is the same then it means any aftermarket heatsink should work :). I booted ESXi from internal USB port as first run, and run ESXi installer, installing directly on the same USB key. At least here in Denmark! I want to swap xeon e3 or probably i5 2500k and this cooler http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=50&lng=en. That is a selling point for me if possible. Thanks, useful to know, although i’ve sorted it now. I’m using a small APC UPS, which I’d strongly recommend to filter out spikes and prevent bad shutdowns etc. Click.. it switched on… posted… boosted up and then went into the OS, speed dropped to 13% and it’s been stable as a rock with CPU temps @40c on idle / 50c @ full load with no more clicking and the fan pretty silent.. so.. if anyone has the same issue with their fan being very noisy (clicking etc) just buy a AFB1212SH off ebay, take out the bearings and replace in your existing fan… job done. I have lm-sensors on linux watching the temperature of the 4 cores, running Prime95 and it is reporting around 65 degrees and yet the ilo is only reporting 40, exactly the same as it reported when I first powered the box up. I have the HP ESXI Installer. I used this Cooler Master paste, $5 at Amazon: http://amzn.to/14bN93p I think just about any CPU thermal paste would work. Well, I started installing ESXi, and afterwards set up RAID, so don’t think so. I have ESXi 5.0 with Win 7 virtual machines running on it. Maybe something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Dynatron-K2-Server-Workstation-Active/dp/B004HSSKBW/ …it’s actually rated for 73W so it would support the Xeon E3. but error “An iLO Advance License is required for continued use after server startup” is prompted. I can hear my Gen8 through a double-drywall – but again, I have rather good hearing :). Mine never did that. Great information about the new Gen8 microserver! Regarding the 6gb and 3gb. Kingston KTH-PL316E/8G, PC3-12800E ECC Ram z.b. I reckon one of the 3 banks of fans in that thing used more power than the mac mini does. You can also take some power from the standard molex which are located under the metal where ODD is located. Should I consider getting one with the possibility of upgrading to E3-1265Lv3? I’ve tried every bios combination with no improvement. Wasn’t aware that I needed it. Filip, I was a little worried about the right-angle connector, but it’s flexible enough to not be a problem. Comparison between Gen10 and Gen8 MicroServer. It’s just not going to happen. 2) When i tried again, it hung when trying to update to the latest version of provisioning The file is available in the HP Service Pack: http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/enterprise/servers/products/service_pack/spp/index.aspx. Already found and old ATX PSU and my dremel to make the bracket :). As soon as I have the updates I will post my readings. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994064, Also you probably know that you can use the extra SATA port with the floppy molex to power up an SSD with the appropriate floppy->sata power adapter. I have mounted an Akasa k25 cpu-fan to make sure it was cool. I made a deal with a big supplier, so I can just return them for full refund. You can run Hyper-V for free as well now. Do they appear under Storage Adapters? Until Kingston releases 16GB UDIMM Dual or Single Rank (Not Quad rank), there is no possibility in getting 32GB of RAM. Solution: Use controller in RAID mode But if you notice the site going down a lot feel free to drop another comment to let me know. :) I wanna get this and upgrade to Xeon but I’m not sure how’s going to last in time with that “monster” 69W TDP. Hp Microserver Gen8 Xeon - Der absolute Vergleichssieger unserer Produkttester. Frankly, the only way I got the passthrough working on the USB 2.0 ports (and for GFX) was to downgrade to ESX 5.0. Search for a replacement there were a lot of “refurbished” HP fans on ebay / aliexpress for £80+ which i didnt fancy paying so i purchased the Noctua NF-P12 redux from amazon.. Now, as the Noctua NF-P12 redux doesn’t have the HP Fan connector i had to rewire the HP connector from the original fan to this one.. it worked and booted up just fine, was ever so silent BUT cpu temps were constantly in the high 55c – 60c at idle and around 69c on full load.. the fan was able to boost upto a maximum of 1700rpm which simply wasn’t pushing enough air out…. IF you end up buying a P410 Card you should/must buy the extra ram and battery or the performance from that Card will not be better than the onboard one. 2x8GB Kingston KVR16E11/8 HP should send you a free server for this post, because I’m sure I’m not the only one who is thinking about buying because of your post. Works really well with the microserver, including Intelligent Provisioning and bios etc. Having obtained a bargainous Gen8 HP MicroServer on eBay, I decided to upgrade the CPU, so I went back to eBay and ordered a second-hand Xeon E3-1265L V2 to replace the stock Celeron G1610T. Benjamin Bryan | Self-Hosted from North Idaho. Performance is really bad unless you get the flash and battery, so remember to add that. I am not a real HW guru, but this is worth trying ;-). I’ve set up the disk as an array 0 (single disk), and I can see it in ESXi via vSphere. The onboard controller can run in AHCI JBOD mode, and supports at least 5 drives. I got my server at last, installed CPU, memory, everything is running fine, thanks for all the help! HP is really alienating a lot of costumers this way. This happened to me on a bl460c G7 and all i had to do to correct it is shutdown the server, re-seed the DIMM chips and it booted fine without error. With build in HW RAID fan speed is pretty fixed at 6%. I recently got an LSI 9240 card on eBay. Boots fine from the stock G1610T…. How long did you run these tests for? Does this sound plausible for a home setup? I have changed the SATA power to a Molex to fit my needs. According to the specs, there is an ancient Matrox G200 GPU. For SMBs right now you’re better off going larger than mini-ITX. I want to use an SSD on the ODD port that is for ESXi shared storage, used for many vmdk’s for many small VM’s. Thermal sensor says about 40ish celcius with 4 cores and turbo mode. And I guess that a seperate controller card is necessary to add these two disks, if a disk is installed in the ODD and the four diskspaces are used in the main part? I actually ended up selling my Xeon and am running everything on the Celeron CPU! Voltage for standart part: 1.5V Luckily I had it setup to raid 6. so it was ok to Loose 2 discs. HP Enterprise MicroServer Gen10 For Small Business, AMD Opteron X3421 Up To 3.4GHz, 8GB RAM, No HDD's Included, P04923-S01 (Renewed) Hewlett Packard Enterprise HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus Ultra Micro Tower Server - 1 x Xeon … I will end up changing the fan or or insert a resistor if it continues. Well, seems that USB CD-ROM/DVD drives are not supported as hot plug: But you can still get it to work though :O), http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1027415. I have run a stress test with stress linux from a bootable usb and after 30 minutes stress test it does not seem to go over 58 C according to LM sensors so I think I am safe, never the less I woul like to be able to monitor my temps in ESX which depends on the ILO. Did you get this working as i have the Xeon E3-1225V2 3.2GHz from a Dell T20 server that I want to put in a Gen8? Well, it isn’t just an explicit time reset that clears the demo license. The motherboard in the Gen8 Microserver is an Intel C204 which is compatible with Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge processors in the Xeon E3 series up to the 1290 (which is 95W). Is that correct? HP Document ID: c03898077 Selbstverständlich ist jeder Hp Proliant Microserver Gen8 Xeon sofort in unserem Partnershop verfügbar und somit direkt bestellbar. I don’t anticipate the continuous load under VMware being anything like this, so was happy with this time. I tested if I could make the fan go slower, by enabling the onboard fan, and tried various settings like AHCI etc, but with no difference. With Supermicro hardware you get free out of band management (KVM over IP) and 32GB memory on the E3 platform and up to 192 or 256GB memory per socket on the E5 platform. Then my ilo would not run the system fan at 30% but more likely 6%. My server is located in a tiny room along with my synology ds 1513+. It’s clearly less than 150W though! Someone tried to install 32Gb memory in MS GEN8 succesfully? of the Pentium and Celeron and i3 parts do seem to have ECC support. Best i could find was Administration–> Access Settings, NVM, just had to clear broswer cache for it to work, Yeh would have been good if we could use our own self signed or verisign cert. That’s just sad Frank. Anyone here got the two USB 3.0 ports working with USB 3.0 support? Just use 16GB of ram and a few fast drives. I’m not too worried about a sensor reporting a low value, but the box is relucant to increase the fan speed (which is always 29-31% according to the iLO). Does it have a JBOD ability? Hi, Barry. transferring some data via USB drive to eliminate the network effect. Here’s my VM layout, eth2 and eth3 part are under planning. Thanks for the reply re: cpus. Good find! just joined the Microserver G8 owners club. Unser Testerteam hat unterschiedlichste Marken verglichen und wir präsentieren unseren Lesern hier alle Ergebnisse. tC = Operating Case temperature. Closing subcase. The top ODD bay doesn’t seem to room a disk…. but it should work with a PCIe videocard and a good cpu no ? After 4-5 years the first one fails. 2. use 120i controller, possibly? A box without fans and HDs. Um Ihnen bei der Produktauswahl ein wenig Unterstützung zu geben, hat unsere Redaktion auch noch das beste aller Produkte ausgesucht, das unserer Meinung nach von all den getesteten Hp Microserver Gen8 Xeon … Ben, You can control the fan speed quite easyly with a remote thermal sendor or with a variable reostator. Just a quick question: have you updated bios and/or ilo since writing this guide? I tried Xen a few years ago and wasn’t happy with it so went with VMware, but things may have changed now that a few years have gone by and now. Played around with CentOS and Plex last night. That’s very generous of you. Or the shorter tower server for small businesses: If you want to build your own Microserver, I have two builds for you to check out: Supermicro X10SDV – Datacenter in a Box and AMD EPYC Home Server Build. GB 9254, I don’t see Gen8 as a good NAS. Unser Team an Produkttestern hat unterschiedlichste Marken ausführlichst verglichen und wir zeigen unseren Lesern hier unsere Resultate. Is it important? Just have to wait for the bios update HP has published news about, but not made available, grr. Discussion threads can be closed at any time at our discretion. So thanks to Benjamin Bryan and everybody in the blog. Raid 10 has much better write performance than raid 5 as well, since there is no parity calculations taking place. Your email address will not be published. I am back with an update. For the amount of discs you want to use I’d buy a HP P410 controlller or the cheaper M1015 Thanks for the tip on using hwinfo, I wasn’t aware there was an issue with the ILO sensors. The crash event in case of FBWC use goes as follows: – get data from DRAM stored onto FLASH using energy from EXTERNAL capacitor, called by HP “Super Capacitor”. Will see how it goes. JEDEC Raw Card E re power connectors: the power connector for the optical drive can be converted to a SATA power connector with a cable, e.g. Really useful blog, thanks for sharing info about CPU upgrade on microserver. That part is the most compatible I have found for this server. If you can place the server outside of your living room, it is a fine solution, but it’s way too noisy to place next to your tv. so I disabled 1 of 4. Which is very good low budget home lab server. Means it will be almost impossible to use 32gb as UDIMM is the “discount” ECC version and really aren’t available in 2x16gb kits. HP ProLiant DL380e Gen8 Server 2x Xeon E5-2450L 8-Core 1.80 GHz, 16 GB DDR3 RAM, 2x 1000 GB SAS 7.2K; HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Rack Server mit 2x Xeon X5670 Six Core 2.93 GHz, 16 GB DDR3 RAM, 2x 300 GB SAS 10K ; HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus Tower Server mit Xeon E-2224 Quad Core 3.40 GHz, 8 GB DDR4 RAM, 2x 2 TB SATA 7.2K; HP ProLiant DL380p Gen8 V0 Rack Server mit 2x Xeon E5-2690 8 … Don’t get the V3, it’s based on the newer 1150 socket and isn’t compatible with the 1155 socket in the Microserver. I just don’t like to gamble anymore :). It DOES NOT support Non-ECC Memory, I mistakenly bought a non-ECC 8G and it won’t boot. He mentioned that the issue currently is placed at third level support, meaning that the are handling the issue, trying to solve it. “Dell MX714”, ~$10USD on eBay. Required fields are marked *. So I think the best solution is to use the 40 second free access to set the clock before entering the license for the first time. Bummer. For now I haven’t reinstalled it as I’ve got the host basically set up. I had given up on the PCI graphics passthrough but it sound like you cracked it. Thanks. https://b3n.org/m1015-hba-in-the-hp-gen8-microserver/, Thanks for the tip Stefan. : http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2041591. I apologize for not making follow-up posts. I have 5.5 running on it but I have been unable to make the PCI passthrough to work. Also have you tried installing 4TB HDDs? 1. Please be aware that coping and pasting the PCIhole settings from the internet in the setting file doesn’t work. Hi, Brendan. Found the compairison chart here: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01608507.pdf. Der Testsieger konnte im Hp Microserver Gen8 Xeon Test sich gegen alle Anderen durchsetzen. Its interesting in that not only does average SMB look to be heading that way, but the era of 32gb home servers is slowly becoming a reality, and sooner or later I think the microserver bandwagon is going to hop on it. Die Reihenfolge der besten Hp Microserver Gen8 Xeon. Hey Russ, thanks for the info, I was planning to buy this processor and stick it in so glad to see someone is having long term success. Do you think this server will accept 2×16 RAM? My Xeon is at 40c though. Verbaut ist eine Intel Xeon CPU E3 1220 v2 mit 3,10 GHz und 4 Cores. Hi, George. I didn’t measure but based on pictures of the Cablematic VU81 it looks like it would easily fit. If you think this as an option, we can continue communicating via email. Do a Google search for Napp-It’s all in one ZFS / VMware solution. and a Molex power splitter (unless you can find a floppy power > MINI SATA power adapter, which I can’t): http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000067SLY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1. 4. Same on Server 2012 and 2012R2. Your information is useful, thanks for your hardworking :). So I’m down to two issues now: I had that one before going to the P410. Can’t confirm it, but the 410 isn’t combatible according to the data sheet from HP, only the P222. Supports 32gb (4x8gb) and has 4 quality intel ethernets. Did you mean the Turbo Boast option in the F9 BIOS ? :), Well thanks for the info! successor to FreeNAS???? on most mashines. I bought the P410 on ebay from the uk and battery+cable from ebay de. Once i’d set the 500gb as that, it installed it fine. But it didn’t compared to when I had an P410 raid controller. Ah kool i never got the pass through working for Im-sensors in ESXi always displays 100 degrees. WEEE, Ethernet, So interestingly, I have been running 2 x Kingston KTH-PL316E/8G sticks in my Gen8 for ~3 years with the Pentium G2020T, with that same ” DIMM X could not be authenticated as genuine HP SmartMemory” etc, and it works fine. Harpinder, what is the difference between the P222 and the P410i? Possible issue with passthrough on the microserver? I’ve never applied thermal paste, so I’m not sure if that’s the right amount, but that’s how much I did. Can we sign it off as safe? Speed-Options, Data-Rate Clock Rate Cycle Time Don’t want to pay much. I don’t have the experience with ESXi either to know if it could be ESXi tricking me. Fan was still running at 51%. Up to 9.6TB of total internal storage 8x 1.2TB SFF SAS hard drives (B320i with SAS license). You gave me answer to just about anything. Limitations always come Down to drive IO. I’m absolutely certain it mentioned bios (J08) in revision 1, but the post is now revision 2, without any references, so I guess it might be bios J06…. Well, I have a Gen8, but my planned use, has been kind a shot down. there is nothing mentioned about 3.7Ghz. yet, I didnt know about my raid failure (degraded) until about a week later, thus the hurried purchase of the HP Smart Array P222 card.. . ), The reason that I ask is the comparison tables on the Intel websites indicate a ‘blank’ or dash for the E3-1265L V2 for this functionality under the “Advanced Technologies” sub-heading. Some of the links posted above for the cable adapters required are in actual fact wrong, the slimline drives use a MINI Sata power connection and therefore you will need a cable to suit such as: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0027FFRP4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. – The highest Intel XEON E3 speed possible without heat E3-1265LV2? they are the cheapest i ever meet in the market, static ip, and virtual server with 2 cores, 200 gb space, and 2 gb ram for only 7 euros (they are in Germany) per month. Your bios’ version isn’t the latest one: 06/06/2014 is the latest. But to make sure, you are running with G2020T — or an E3-1265Lv3? Details about HP Microserver Gen8 - 16GB ECC RAM - XEON 1240V3 CPU See original listing. It needs to do a full parity/checksum on all the discs to do that, it is rather likely that one more disc fails on you and you loose evertyhing. Hp Proliant Microserver Gen8 Xeon - Die ausgezeichnetesten Hp Proliant Microserver Gen8 Xeon im Überblick. Room just big enough for the two units, but 2m high. from my GEN8? You’re right that 10 minutes isn’t long enough to properly stress test. I am not sure you know that you have another option for RAID card, which is much-much cheaper and gives you 6 Gbps for all 4 HDDs. :(. How can it be that the HDDs don’t power up? But please do share thoughts and concerns that I maybe don’t see. Just to be sure I bought and mounted an Akase 25 cpu fan. But you might be able to use this RDM mapping hack… http://blog.davidwarburton.net/2010/10/25/rdm-mapping-of-local-sata-storage-for-esxi/ I don’t really recommend it, could lead to data corruption, etc. I must have messed up my trial because it now says no license is installed, I was in the BIOS looking at all the settings and I know I adjusted the clock so maybe that invalidated the trial license. Runs in Raid1 for my OS, which is Hyper-V 2012R2. Any of that make sense? My WD Reds are setup as raid 10 on the B120i. I didn’t measure, but the holes are not placed in a Square as normal. With the information here it was really easy to perform the upgrade and everything seems to be working fine. After reviewing my order last night I’ve actually changed the cable I’ve ordered for the drive to this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004FIA6X4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. It’s not that, it’s that I’ve got services (Email, my blog, minecraft server, etc.) I did entertain Raid10, but it requires 4 disks and would effectively halve my storage, only giving me 4TB. Up to 32TB of total internal storage with 8 x 4TB LFF SATA hard drives a high-powered CPU replacement. Ben, I do E3-1240 (sandy, 80w tdp) with 2core/HT enable/Turbo disable. (Do you know if the E3-1265L V2 has a DTS – Digital Thermal Sensor? Looks like a great clean solution. Ranks: 2 This setup outperforms some mid-level SANs while also providing better data integrity and more space. But since you added all disks at the same time, odds are that at least one more disk breaks during the rebuild, leaving you with nothing. I leave mine on 24/7 because it’s always backing up or ZFS is scrubbing the disks. Maybe someone else can post here.. Citrix would be a good alternative to VMware to look into especially now that Citrix has completely open sourced XenServer and all the enterprise features (like failover and such). Would the 80W utilize too much heat?
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